The Straightlaced Bohemian ([info]myrch) wrote,
@ 2004-07-21 07:09:00
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There's a place in this country where everyone is obese, people routinely use the word "daggummit," and wooden Indians constitute high art. Every other road is a highway, downtown is a Jiffy gas station, and healthy food... doesn't exist. Oh, Tennessee, if I were a redneck, I'd-a thought I'd-a died and gone to heaven.

Tennesseans are nice people. Or they seem nice. A little slow, but nice. Probably. Provided you drive an American car and wear a Christian cross prominently on your person, Tennesseans are the nicest people in the whole country. Side.

OK, that's probably not fair. I've only spent time in eastern Tennessee, which probably is nothing like the bastions of sophistication known as central and western Tennessee. The east side of the state abuts the Appalachians, and I must say, past experiences in the Appalachians of West Virginia, Maryland and Virginia have led me to conclude that the region is responsible for a disproportionate amount of America's mouth breathers.

This is a sad state of affairs, because the Appalachians, including eastern Tennessee, are gorgeous. Really. Tree-covered, mountain-like hills, one after the other. Uncountable streams and rivers. If we could just poison all the people and raze their primitive and bizarre shrines -- such as Dollywood and the equally gaudy tourist traps that have sprung up around it -- the U.S. could declare Tennessee's 150-year siege on good taste finally over and repopulate it with French hand models.

There are a few good things in Tennessee. The Great Smoky Mountains, Vanderbilt University, and an innovative nudie bar. It's just that the good things are hidden behind skorts, highway dinosaur sculptures and refrigerator magnets that say things like "Bless this mess" and "If mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy."

Despite its spectacular devotion to the kitsch arts, Tennessee seems to lack an identity. Any one of the state's towns would be equally at home in northern Alabama or Mississippi, western North Carolina, or Kentucky. Shitty food, poor English, country music... I mean, this is what the entire South is like.

Tennessee's past identity confusion explains why, after decades of having no professional sports teams, Tennesseans glommed onto the Titans (American football) and Grizzlies so quickly. Tennesseans desperately needed better representation than Dolly Parton, Jim Varney and Elvis Pressley. "Better" being relative. In any case, things are looking up.

So here's to you, Tennessee. I mean it. You border the most American states and you're shaped like a rhombus.




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[info]tabbourjeois
2004-07-21 08:28 am UTC (link)
Poor English? Shitty food? WHAT?!?!?!?

For the record not EVERYONE in Tennessee speaks badly. You were in the middle of Bumble Fuck East and really, it's not fair to pass judgement on the entire South East just based on the time you spent in.. Dayton, was it?!

There ARE smart people here. You just didn't spend enough time in the right city or cities. :(

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[info]myrch
2004-07-21 08:37 am UTC (link)
Hey, I'm just the messenger.

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[info]banana_bandana
2004-07-21 09:25 am UTC (link)
Shitty food? WHAT?!?!?!?

Shhh, he's from California. Where if food doesn't come in a smoothie form it is considered inedible and not healthy.

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[info]bookshop
2004-07-21 10:42 am UTC (link)
As an ex-born-again-Southern Baptist/Conservative/country-bred/"fixin-fer-a-fight" Tennessean, I'd just like to say I feel you're misjudging our fair state horribly. No, Tennessee is not a bastion of liberal purity, but neither are all or even most Tennesseans ignorant right-wing nutjobs. Moreover, to decry Tennessee for its unhealthy redneck conservatism is to overlook the greater part of Southern Indiana. Bloomington, as you know, is an exception to the rule--but hailing from Tennessee, I can frankly say that you've forgotten just how drastically different the rule is from the exception up in these parts. :D (You can fault Tennesseans for poor English but overlook the tendency of Southern Indianans to say things like "you-uns" and "I'll do'r" on a regular basis?!)

Above all I take greatest exception to the idea that Tennessee lacks an identity. but I've decided to make my own post about that. :)

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(no subject) - [info]tabbourjeois, 2004-07-21 10:55 am UTC
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[info]isthatatictac
2004-07-21 09:31 am UTC (link)
thumbs way down, david. thumbs. down.

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[info]myrch
2004-07-21 11:46 am UTC (link)
Well, that's that. As evidenced by the effusive love poured all over me in response to this post, I think it's safe to say southerners are a bunch of fucking pussies.

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[info]rhiannon76
2004-07-21 10:29 am UTC (link)
"elvis pressley", david? "pressley"?!

and nobody's razing pigeon forge while i'm alive, dammit.

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[info]myrch
2004-07-21 12:22 pm UTC (link)
Oops.

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[info]samschoiceus
2004-07-21 11:59 am UTC (link)
Oh Lord, Myrch. You're going to have quite a fight on your hands after this post. Making less-than-worshipful remarks about a whole region of our country is bound to stir up some orneriness. I'm convinced that as people age, if they have managed keep themselves pretty well fixed in one position, that they begin to associate their person (or, more accurately, their pride) with their place. To some degree, this has happened to me.

When I was a child, I hated living in the South. I hated its past, I hated its music, and most of all I hated its twangy accent that was regarded as a sign of ignorance by the rest of the English-speaking world. As a result, I have never payed much attention to local history, I have never given country music any more of my time than was necessary to change to a channel, and I sound more like a Midwesterner than a hometown boy.

Yet, as I have gotten older, I have grown increasingly fond of my surroundings. G.K. Chesterton once said that "a thing must be loved before it is loveable." Well, despite all the hatred that I once held for it, I have surprised myself by growing to love this ramshackle place. And now it is loveable.

So, I can completely understand your initial repulsion, but I can also say that the south has an odd way of growing on a person.

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[info]myrch
2004-07-21 12:11 pm UTC (link)
I'm afraid I missed the Boobie Bungalow.

Next time. Next time.

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[info]quackyloo
2004-07-21 12:27 pm UTC (link)
Um, no. The "cockwipe" comment wasn't me. I would have put my name to it.

I would imagine that a "cockwipe" would be an item used to wipe one's cock. But that's just an uneducated Tennessean's guess.

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[info]myrch
2004-07-21 12:32 pm UTC (link)
There are schools in Tennessee?? I mean, I saw some sign on the freeway suggesting the state valued education, but I thought it was just a marketing gimmick.

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[info]mjstone
2004-07-21 12:32 pm UTC (link)
Ahhhh. Dayton Tennessee, home of the Scopes Monkey Trial. Very similar to Cleveland, TN, where the Church of God was founded.

I agree with a lot of what you say, which is funny, since I was "born and raised" in upper-east Tennessee - Kingsport to be exact. There are many towns which are small and colloquial, especially in Eastern Tennessee (ie, Cock County as a whole), but I must disagree that there isn't some personality.

As I mentioned, I am from Kingsport, Tennessee. Kingsport is a part of the Tri-Cities, which has as much culture as it does down-home rednecks. The Tri-Cities consist of Johnson City, Kingsport and Bristol and these three cities are home to a college, Eastman Chemical Corporation, and the Bristol Motor Speedway. Thus one town is full of college kids (and the third largest per-capita gay population), the second is comprised of Engineers and the third, well, once a year the natives avoid the Raceway all together. Though a mottled personality, it is a personality.

And while you were looking at the Myrtle-Beach-in-the-mountains that is Sevier County (Pigeon Forge, Gatlinburg), did you happen to wander on down to Knoxville? The University of Tennessee, where I go to school, is one of the more interesting parts of Tennessee. The architecture has been praised as some of the best in the south and has some of the leading programs in the nation. Strong words for a State University of a state that's budget is so bad that the Govenor is working for free.

I can say that it did take a long time for me to say that I was a Tennessean in mixed company. I know that no matter what I say, people will see me as a backroad country bumpkin and yes, I do occationally use the word "y'all." As a Computer Engineer and soon-to-be college graduate, I think that anyone who can't see me as the intellegent, liberal, open-minded person that I am doesn't deserve my time.

Next time you're in Tennessee, do remember that it's a rather large state and you might have overlooked a few important points.

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[info]tabbourjeois
2004-07-21 12:34 pm UTC (link)
Amen.

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(no subject) - [info]myrch, 2004-07-21 12:41 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]myrch, 2004-07-21 01:08 pm UTC
Joining the bandwagon . . .
[info]beerbal
2004-07-21 01:02 pm UTC (link)
Fuck you, Myrch. I'm from the south too.

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...oh no.
[info]jenarael
2004-07-21 01:04 pm UTC (link)
Like Foix and Roussillon are from the south?

Hahaha. I love you, Srinath. Oh, I do I do.

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Re: Joining the bandwagon . . . - [info]myrch, 2004-07-21 01:06 pm UTC

[info]adolfa
2004-07-21 01:09 pm UTC (link)
I don't know you, but I think I'm in love. Moreover, I think you've just started the Civil War all over again. Aha. Ahahahahaha.

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[info]myrch
2004-07-21 01:40 pm UTC (link)
And my mom thought I'd never amount to much.

I'm gonna be the Fort Sumter of Civil War II: Electric Boogaloo.

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[info]amicablebitch
2004-07-21 01:10 pm UTC (link)
louisiana doesn't have shitty food. we're what makes everyone else's food taste shitty.

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[info]myrch
2004-07-21 01:25 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, I heard Panera is in Baton Rouge now.

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[info]stainedecho
2004-07-21 01:44 pm UTC (link)
Hey now, Jim Varney is pretty cool in my book... know what I mean, Vern?

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[info]myrch
2004-07-21 02:36 pm UTC (link)
Does your book happen to have the word "Waldo" in the title, by any chance?

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(no subject) - [info]stainedecho, 2004-07-21 05:47 pm UTC
People...seriously...calm down.
[info]jourdannex
2004-07-21 02:38 pm UTC (link)
Oh what the hell is wrong with people? Please, how often does everyone dis California and how wacky and weird it is and how they would like it to fall in the ocean. Do we all hunt them down and post "I AM FROM CALIFORNIA SCREW YOU, YOU NEVER SAW THE GOOD PARTS, YOU ARE JUST JEALOUS WE HAVE A GOVENATOR!"

Man, I saw a old woman in a Mumu in TN holding a dish of cornbread. That woman was my grandmother. And that is all I need to know about it.

David, please do Alabama next!

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Re: People...seriously...calm down.
[info]myrch
2004-07-21 02:44 pm UTC (link)
Does that mean I have to go to Alabama? Because listen, I drove three miles off I-24 just to touch it, and I think that's all the Alabama I'm ever going to need.

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Re: People...seriously...calm down. - [info]jourdannex, 2004-07-21 02:47 pm UTC
Re: People...seriously...calm down. - [info]myrch, 2004-07-21 02:59 pm UTC
Re: People...seriously...calm down. - [info]jourdannex, 2004-07-21 03:20 pm UTC
Re: People...seriously...calm down. - [info]myrch, 2004-07-21 04:20 pm UTC
Re: People...seriously...calm down. - [info]jenarael, 2004-07-22 01:03 am UTC
Re: People...seriously...calm down. - [info]jourdannex, 2004-07-22 09:23 am UTC
yikes
[info]lallorona
2004-07-21 05:26 pm UTC (link)
i read this post and left it alone to answer later and look what i find!

amazing. considering i'm from (and still living in) Tex-ass, I can commizerate (sp? all us suthnuh's have such bad english) with some of the more moderate replies. Austin's cool but the rest of the state (and it's big) has to grow on yah.

I have to say though that while I thought your entry was hilarious (in a Rodney Dangerfield kinda way) your reaction to some of the more hostile comments was a little mean-spirited and not at all funny. and while i am sure i will receive the same treatment - i still think you're grrrrrr8!

(the tiger is comming....eeeehheheheheheheheheeeeeee! little mac geek humor there.)

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Re: yikes
[info]myrch
2004-07-21 10:12 pm UTC (link)
Yes, this post multiplied. Not unlike first cousins in a small West Texas town.

I have a special (read: retarded) rapport with some of the people who received my meaner responses. Don't you worry. I'm going to turn up dead in a sewer somewhere by next Monday, but really, it's not worth worrying about.

I like Austin too. Good town.

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[info]strange_victory
2004-07-21 07:56 pm UTC (link)
Uuuum...what's wrong with being a mouth breather?

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[info]myrch
2004-07-21 10:02 pm UTC (link)
Nothing, of course! It's something hill people should be very proud of.

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[info]cynicalpoet
2004-07-21 08:23 pm UTC (link)
Tennessee sounds a lot like the Australian opinion of Tasmania. We're so glad they've got their own island...

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[info]myrch
2004-07-21 10:04 pm UTC (link)
I thought there were only five people living in Tasmania.

Imagine my surprise when I learned they have enough people, apparently, to field a rugby squad.

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[info]oxojamm
2004-07-21 09:00 pm UTC (link)
"Now Lissen hear Boy...the first thang u better learn b-fore U git ta shheet shovelin On R Farm iz, YOU KEEP YER GODDAMN HANDS OFFN MY DAUGHTER!!!....ya got any ajectchin ta dat?.....Ya aint Queer are ya????...well...least u got dat in yer faver...."
Scene from, "An Evening with Lyle". by OXOjamm.

http://oxojamm.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/hugekok3.jpg

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[info]myrch
2004-07-21 10:05 pm UTC (link)
That totally happened to me.

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[info]rahulms
2004-07-22 08:37 am UTC (link)
burn him at the stake aye!

trust you to spark up a controversy.. It is all so funny as long as you dont post next about the hordes of decrepit asians thats flocking to US which would be crossing-ze-line and I would have to post anonymously using obsecene bodily functions as an adjective.

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[info]myrch
2004-07-22 09:01 am UTC (link)
That's right, actually. People find me funny until I unleash my rather tepid wit on them.

I quite like being called a cockwipe. :*(

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(no subject) - [info]rahulms, 2004-07-22 09:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]myrch, 2004-07-22 09:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rahulms, 2004-07-22 09:12 am UTC
rhombus
[info]thechunger
2004-07-22 11:15 am UTC (link)
You are so wrong you make me mad. A rhombus has 4 equal sides. Tennessee isn't even close.

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Dear Guy Smiley...
[info]myrch
2004-07-22 12:42 pm UTC (link)
My editors decided "quadrangle" and "parallelipiped" were too obscure, and settled with "like a rhombus."

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Re: Dear Guy Smiley... - [info]stainedecho, 2004-07-26 11:56 am UTC

[info]laura_borealis
2004-08-01 12:53 pm UTC (link)
I should read you more often. I spent 9 years of childhood hell in east Tennessee. You have summed up my feelings for the state perfectly. The one thing you missed: they play country on the rock-and-roll stations. And NO-ONE NOTICES.

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[info]myrch
2004-08-01 04:45 pm UTC (link)
Must be "new" country.

You should only read me more if you like the sensation of your eyeballs being poked with a rusty knife. For eternity.

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[info]raisins4peace
2004-09-29 02:55 am UTC (link)
Though I don't know you, and I only read this post through my habitual nocturnal lj ramblings, and I rarely reply to such things, I feel I should put my two cents in.

I have lived in both East and Middle TN my whole life, and this erroneous perception that people have of Tennessee has always bothered me. Not every band in Tennessee is a country band, I have been to some truly awesome local rock/punk concerts in Nashville.

And yes, there are those annoying narrow-minded rednecks here, but most of the rest of us just ignore them, much like you might ignore a retarded kid on the playground or a crazy person on the subway. You can't blame people for being ignorant any more than for being dropped on their heads as babies.

I have also found, through experience, that sometimes these people will surprise you, if you stop stereotyping them and actually give them a chance to reason out the truth. When someone says something bigoted in my presence, I ask them to explain why they think that way, and I reason with them until they either get mad and leave or rethink their position. I find that in many cases a lot of the "redneck" perception is merely ignorance that has been passed down, much like a genetic defect, through the family, and if you address it with that in mind, it can be cured fairly easily. But that will never happen on a large scale basis, because of our approach to schooling - you're tested and, if you don't have honors potential, then you're a redneck, and they don't bother with you anymore. I have no idea if this is an attitude unique to TN, the South, or America in general, but there it is.

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[info]myrch
2004-09-29 08:05 am UTC (link)
Speaking of erroneous perceptions, you've erroneously perceived my post. I imagine this is because you don't know me, as you admitted.

But I will say this, in all seriousness:

That areas in eastern and middle Tennessee have rock/punk bands neither surprises nor impresses me. Now if there were more classical music being performed, then I would be impressed. As things stand, there is a serious dearth of real music down there. And that is a terrible, terrible tragedy.

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